Feb 24, 2006

Posted in Technology | 4 Comments

My Visit With ACS

I am a geek at heart. I have said many times that if you squint real hard while reading the Bible, it says the geek shall inherit the earth. Because of my propensity toward all things digital, I sometimes want to move too fast for those around me. I must always remember to study, verify, test and troubleshoot before I spring new technologies on our team. We have been an ACS client for almost 18 years. We were with them in the early days of DOS (I am glad those days are behind us). We made the transition almost 5 years ago to their Windows product and have utilized many of their various modules.

Then came the internet. Remember, I am a geek. I believe in the power and possibilities it holds. My house is very wired. Gabriel and Noah, my two oldest, have their own blogs. I am sure as Adam learns to read he will want one as well. I recently read a study from the PEW Internet and American Life Project that states:

64% of wired Americans have used the Internet for spiritual or religious purposes.

Wow! The Internet is now! Those who don’t get into the mix and leverage this technology lose.

With that said, if you jump into a new technology before it has matured, you may get what you paid for. If you jump in too soon, you will spin your wheels trying to make something happen prematurely. If you wait too late, you become irrelevant. I don’t want to be either. Recently, we have been reevaluating our commitment to ACS and their product. There are a lot of great new cutting edge products on the market today. Between Fellowship One, Blackbaud, Connection Power, Shelby and others my head begins to spin. They each have a defined approach to both church/nonprofit management and how they leverage the internet. It is difficult at times to know which tools have the greatest importance in our decision making process. I read alot of blogs and hear stories applauding and whining about every product imaginable. That doesn’t help. I listen to a rep from company A plead their case and it seems right. Then I listen to the rep from company B and they look like they have all the answers. I am so lost.

It has seemed to me, at times, that ACS has drug it’s heels moving fully onto the Internet while other, smaller companies have built ground up as complete web only products. Why has ACS stayed with a Paradox database? When will they be completely online with all of their products seemlessly integrated with our web site? Why? Why? Why?

I realized there was a disconnect between our church and where ACS is headed. Now, their base of operations sits just 3 hours south of us. They send information out to clients all the time. Where was the disconnect? They have some of the best manuals I have ever seen to help clients set up their software. Tech support is hands down the best of all the vendors we work with. Yet, we were still left without a “Best Practices” model of how to set it up for our needs. We need help. This is where competition swoops in. We have been lured this way and that and left wandering where to turn next.

What to do? What to do?… I know, I could… pray for divine guidance. That just might work. So, that’s what I did. I prayed for guidance while I sought wisdom. I listened to man and for God to direct me. Then it happened. I stumbled (or was guided to) a post from Tony Dye who visited with ACS in January. Then I read Hal Campbell’s reply where he welcomed current, future or former clients to drop by. We fit into all three of those descriptions.

So, I took my senior pastor (who is also my father) to Florence yesterday for a tour and talk with their team. I was impressed. Do I believe they have arrived at their ultimate destination? No. But I do believe they are moving quickly and cautiously forward. Remember, this is a company that is over 27 years old and serves over 22,000 organizations worldwide. Not 100 or 1000… but 22,000! A simple idea to me (like switching from Paradox to SQL) is not so simple with 22,000 clients. What I did hear was a clearly defined strategy to move forward.

Craig, Hal, Cindy, Dean and others took just about the whole day to talk to and listen to us about their products, vision and implementation. That was significant. They have 22,000 clients and the CEO, COO, Product Manager, Executive Director of IT and programmers took the bulk of yesterday for us.

So, what did I learn?
1) ACS has depth, breadth that only comes with a mature product
2) They have been doing church management software for a long time
3) They want to listen to their customers.
4) They are committed to moving completely to the web
5) It is probably not wise to use resources to completely rewrite the desktop with a different database system when you are moving to the web as a matter of course. Just let the new system live in the SQL database.
6) They have a vast wealth of underutilized resources at our disposal including: tech support on our terms (phone, an extensive web knowledge base, live chat or email)
7) There are many training resources that we have not used including online web training videos, user groups, regular regional training seminars and traveling trainers that will come to us.

Are we going to return to ACS? I can’t answer that just yet. But I will say that I came away with a new respect for this great company. Thanks guys!

  1. Bryan,

    Thanks for the compliment in your second paragraph. The four years since we have launched Fellowship One have been fun and challenging. I often say "the best thing that happened to us is we ‘inherited’ software from a church and the worst thing that ever happened was we ‘inherited’ software from a church." We have rearchitected F1 and are making great strides in the solution we are producing. This year is really going to be exciting. Now, if we could only write code as fast as we can envision it. When we came on the scene, I believe we had a fresh message about what we thought church management system were about. It seems now many other vendors are saying the same thing. Just remember, market messaging can easily be changed, code cannot.

    Although one of the values of a SaaS is the favorable TCO (it might be a bigger check to write than churches are used to writing to one vendor, but the total value of what is off-loaded to the vendor is huge!), the real long term value of a SaaS is the network effect of how staff people will be tied to each other and how the congregation can be tied in as well; how classes can be delivered from the website because the data on the back-end will indicate that the person who just logged into the church website missed the last session of the 5 week Bible Study, etc. It will be the power of the network.

    I truly believe that all vendors will move to the web or die. Some a more rapid death than others. The power of the network and the value prop of the end result is simply too high for this not to happen.

    The question that must be asked is how each learning organization can leverage the lessons of the past to propel their products to be better in the future. A company that starts today can utilize better technology across the board than one started 25 years ago or even 5 years ago. But the company that starts today still has to learn some of the organizational lessons and developmental lessons that the one 5 years ago has already conquered. But as a technology company of 15 years changes its business model and core competencies, it too must relearn some things that the one founded 5 years ago has already learned. Selecting the right business application provider is both a tactical and a strategic decision. Tactically can it do what I need it to do; strategically, is this partner going to get me to the ultimate destination when I need them to?

    In the for profit, commercial world, there have been very few software companies that have survived the transition from one technology platform to the next. Off the top of my head, it is hard to think of but a few; and some of those had to transition to a different business model along the way. Novell, Lotus, Word Perfect, MSA, McCormick and Dodge are all fractions of what they once were or no longer around. Only if you have the capital to re-platform can you truly survive, let alone thrive. But if a company has the capital to do so, why weren’t they the innovators in the first place?

    I hope you continue to challenge all of us church software vendors to provide better solutions.

    Grace to you,

    jhook
    Fellowship Technologies

  2. Kevin,
    We decided to return to ACS. The Connection Power product was just not mature enough when we tried to make the transition. We were an early adopter at a time when we could not afford to wait for bugs to get worked out. But, I think they have some great ideas.

    I believe Fellowship One has the best grasp on where the technology should be going. There is a reason why so many large churches are using their product. The people that I talk to who are using F1 love it.

    I do not believe ACS understands why they should fully commit to a web application and that concerns me. I recently watched a video previewing the ACS OnDemand product and realized that, in my opinion, they have it all wrong. Their plan to bring ACS to the net is by hosting their software on their server and putting an app on the user desktop to access it. Wrong idea. In the video, the moderator said they do not have plans to abandon the desktop ACS product because there will always be clients who want it (I am paraphrasing). If they don’t make plans to abandon the desktop, I am not sure how they can commit to the net with the proper resources and focus.

    So, for now, we are back with ACS… but not fully satisfied.

  3. Bryan,

    what system did you end up going with?

  4. It was great having you and your Dad visit with us yesterday. We learned alot from the time together. As you heard and saw yesterday, we are firmly committed to the web. I hope you and your church will be part of the ACS family again soon.